Dispute over w-2 versus corp-to-corp
Hi Linda,
Fantastic site.
Here's my situation: I am an LLC S-Corp in the IT Consulting line of business. I am talking with another company about providing IT Consulting services for them. They are also in the IT Consulting line of business.
The offer on the table is as a w-2 hourly employee. However, my personal preference is corp-to-corp on an hourly basis. This company is telling me for liability reasons they cannot bring me on as corp-to-corp for a couple reasons:
a) something about us engaging in the exact same line of business
b) because I am a single owner
c) and some 50% rule that I can't explain and don't understand but has to do with me providing more than 50% of the work for their client
I can't find anything on the web or on the IRS's website to help clarify this. I think after reading your site that the single owner statement, although true, holds no water because of my S-Corp tax status. But I am not sure on what engaging in the same line of business means and the 50% rule they refer to.
Just to be clear - I do have other clients and would continue to. I also would be working on my own to complete their work and wouldn't require significant training. But, I don't think this matters because if I'm correct - I'm not an independent contractor because I'm a corporation providing a service.
Thanks for any help you can provide!
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Section 1706: Employees vs Independent Contractors
This is an point of concern for a lot of companies. The point is your client is trying to avoid the possibility that you will come back later and claim that you are/were an employee of theirs rather than an independent contractor. The IRS isn't likely to try to reclassify a worker willy-nill. They usually have a request from a worker that s/he was really an employee. That is why your client wants to clearly classify you as an employee now. You should take a look at the IRS's Publication 1779: Independent Contractor or Employee? on what determines an employee first.
If after you take a look at the definitions of what is an employee vs. an independent contractor you think you will really be an independent contractor, then push for the corp-to-corp arrangement. Be sure that the contract clearly indicated you are an independent contractor and the contract is between the client and your corporation. Otherwise, you really are an employee and consider the offer on the table.
The corporate veil does protect the client if you are an independent contractor. Here is a quote from the IRS's Training Materials: Independent Contractor or Employee?:
Section 1706 says that you can't just say, "Oh, it's common practice to hire these workers as independent contractors" and avoid the tax, interest & penalties if a worker is reclassified from an independent contractor to an employee. Unfortunately, Section 1706 only applies to computer-related industries. Which seems unfair, but I think it ismostly because as an industry, it made a common practice of abusing the employee/IC distinction in the 1980s. Some groups are working to repeal Section 1706 so all workers are treated the same, but apparently Congress is busy with other issues.
I hope this helps a little.
L:)
Hi Linda, Thank you very
Hi Linda,
Thank you very much for your reply! Your reply is very much in line with the reply that of my CPA actually. However, the client has come back with several references from Publication 15-A. They are specifically referencing "control and direction", and that because the nature of my services and their core business are similar.
I can most certainly assure you I have no interest in being the employee, or I wouldn't go through this! I suppose I can see from their standpoint why they would want it this way.
The question is, is there any black and white way to settle this?
BTW - you're absolutely right about the unfairness of 1706! So much for equal rights!
JP
BTW - by no interest I mean
BTW - by no interest I mean in preference versus being the IC. If it turns out there is no avenue for C2C, then I haven't much choice!
Section 1706
Linda,
I just found Section 1706. And I believe this is where the problem starts...
My issue is that without the income flowing through the S-Corp now I can't take advantage of expenses incurred nor tax deferred investments!
Thanks again.